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publicly name north korea for the attack, which they have traced using digital footprints. >> the u.s. government is taking this attack very seriously, as an attack on a company, it's an attack on its employees and frankly, it's an attack on the freedoms that we enjoy in this country, the freedom of an entertainer or an artist to make something, though it may be controversial. and the freedom of people to go see it. we're reviewing a range of options for how we will respond to this attack. >> cnn justice correspondent evan perez is with me now to tell us more about this. good morning. >> good morning, carol. this is the big issue for this administration is, how to respond to this north korean hacking, but also to make sure it's not an overreaction. the white house is expected to announce attribution of this
hack in the next couple of hours and as you said at the top, carol, the way this was done was to make it look like it was an inside job, to make sure that people thought it was coming from inside. they even tried to hide the routing of where the computer server servers that were being used to carry out the attack. in the end the hackers were able to get into the computer systems of sony. they were there for some time, for months, before they did anything, carol. >> the white house says this is a serious national security issue, and it demands a proportional response. what does that mean? >> the danger is that north korea has nuclear weapon answer they do irirrational things from time to time. you don't want to escalate a situation. after all, this is a hack against a movie studio, and you don't want, president obama doesn't want to be a president who essentially accidentally
starts a war with north korea perhaps over a seth rogen movie. they want to have a proportional response they can perhaps do sanctions against the north korean military but they want to make sure they don't go too far to cause the problem to get even worse perhaps. >> i think you just put it in fine perspective. the president doesn't want to be responsible for starting a war over a seth rogen movie. thanks to you. sony has been a gold mine for late night comics. >> big story, sony pictures has officially canceled the release of "the interview" due to continued threats from hackers. [ booing ] it means the hackers accomplished their goal of making everyone in the world want to see "the interview." i wasn't planning on it, now i can't wait to see it. i'm like what is this? >> for george clooney this is no laughing matter. he has a message for sony and it's an angry one. he says "stick it on line.
do whatever you can to get this movie out, not because everybody has to see the movie but because i'm not going to be told we can't see the movie. that's the most important part. we cannot be told we can't see something by kim jong-un, of all the f-ing people." cnn correspondent samuel burke is following the story and the letter goes on and gets even better. >> what's even scarier is the fact that george clooney sent out a petition across hollywood to many stars and studios and not one person signed it, carol. he says that people are afraid. they don't want to be seen as supporting someone who made inappropriate remarks about obama on the one hand, and they're also afraid of what they have in their own e-mails and that they might be hacked so that's a major problem. >> men before country in other words? >> that's absolutely right. don't forget it's not just one movie canceled. it's two movies that have been canceled so there are fears from silicon valley down to hollywood, all across california. movie that would have also
centered around north korea with steve carell has been canceled. i want to show you the tweet he put out yesterday, also very upset the way that george clooney is. he put this tweet on twitter "it is a very sad day for expression, for freedom of speech" and he used the hashtag, fear, to express everything that's happening there in hollywood. what's interesting is that people are saying you have to take a stand in hollywood. you can't capitulate and i hear that from cyber security experts, the same thing george clooney is saying, they're afraid of copycat attacks >> they don't want their personal e-mails getting out there, it could hurt their bottom line and personal reputations and their relationships and those are more important to them than taking the stand for the first amendment rights of americans and themselves. >> and it's interesting, because george clooney made the point that sony really isn't to blame for capitulating. if you follow the line of this story, sony went ahead in
wanting to release the film. after the movie theaters pulled it, sony had to give in to them. we shouldn't be upset at sony but the industry needs to stand strong. it's not just hollywood that needs to stand strong, it could be the car manufacturers next, it could be other companies, it could be wall street, so it starts with hollywood. they need to stand up for the rest of the industry in the united states. >> thank you so much. the cyber attack on sony is likely to be front and center for the president, just a few hours from now he faces his last press conference and reporters, so that will be the last time he'll do that this year. senior washington correspondent joe johns is at the white house to tell us more. good morning. >> reporter: good morning, carol. one of the big questions in all of this is a proportional response to what has happened, and that's a little bit difficult for the administration to try to figure out, because there is no equivalent entity in
north korea like sony pictures. so how does the administration fashion a proportional response? i think that's just one question. i also think we have to restate what we heard a minute ago, there's also that issue of sony pictures and whether or not it should be blamed, the question of the movie theaters shutting down and, you know, pushing sony pictures to go ahead and do what it did. just the same, they're saying here at the white house that there is that political problem, because rather than projecting a position of strength, standing up for free expression, instead, the movie industry of the united states is now in position of appearance to sort of cowtow to a dictator. that is a difficult situation and one certainly the president can get asked about his news conference today, carol?
>> it's likely the president won't come out and say this was an act of cyber terrorism? >> reporter: it's hard to say. if you talk to people on the outside they'll say they'll call it cyber terrorism, among other things, cyber extortion or what have you. the question is, how strong a position the united states government is going to take. also, another question i think needs to be raised here, and people are asking washington, typically companies in the united states, whether they are public or private, provide for their own cyber security. they don't ask for the united states government to protect them. now, though, we're in a new age, if a whole government comes against a studio or any other entity in the united states, what does the united states do to respond? these are very difficult questions, of course, in 2014 and things are going to be looking at going down the road. >> all right, joe johns reporting live from the white house this morning, thank you. catch the president this weekend sitting down with candy crowley
for a one on one tv exclusive sunday morning, 9:00 eastern. "the interview" will not be shown as movie theaters and neither will "team america world police police." ♪ i'm so lonely, so lonely, so lonely and sadly alone ♪ >> several theaters wanted to show this 2004 animated film from the "south park" creators, trade park and matt stone in replace of "the interview." it features a cartoonish version of the former north korean leader kim jong-il. it has canceled it and the alamo draft house, where they were going to show this movie posted this on its facebook page "dune to circumstances beyond our control the team america screening has been canceled. we apologize and will provide refunds today." food for thought. >> still to come, for months
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the pentagon has a brand new name for isis and judging by the number of times lieutenant general james terry used that new name in a 30-minute news conference, well, the pentagon is serious about this. >> da'esh is why we're here. da'esh using terror. da'esh, we will try da'esh. da'esh. da'esh. da'esh. da'esh is a -- da'esh. da'esh. >> so you get the point, right? terry used the term da'esh 25 times in 30 minutes, in arabic the acronym sounds like a word that means crush underneath the foot. isis, which we will now call da'esh hates the term. if isis leaders hear anyone using the term da'esh they will cut out their tongues. the pentagon is making the shift
because allied partners believe referring to the group as isis or isil legitimize the self-declared caliphate. lieutenanteral mark hurtling, welcome. >> good morning, carol. >> the french foreign minister decided to call isis da'esh cutthroats. tell us where this is effective. >> well, carol, i'm not an arabic linguist but da'esh stands for. [ speaking in foreign language ] and it means the state of islam in iraq and the labant but also sounds like a word in arabic means to crush under foot, so it is a condemnation by most arabs who are using this, and i talked to an iraqi general, an old friend of mine a few days ago via e-mail and he said that's what he's calling it, because the arabs like it that way. this not an islamic state, they
do not represent the islamic people so it throws it in the face of al baghdadi, and i think general terry using it yesterday was a brilliant move on his part and it's really in their face saying okay you're going to cut off my tongue? try it, come after me. >> very interesting. you was thinking about isis and what it really is. it's more like a criminal enterprise, they kidnap people to raise money, they deal in drugs, they're thieves. they steal. so why not just call it something like a cartel or mafia or a gang? >> well, when you've lived and worked and fought in iraq as long as many of us have, you'll come to understand that there are a lot of these kind of criminal gangs there. in fact, the naming of these gangs go back and forth. it's almost like the crypts and the bloods, carol. they are terrorist outfits and they will lean one way or another, depending on who they think has the upper hand. da'esh has had that for the last several months but i think they've suffered some defeats,
come to a culminating point and going on the strategic defensive. the combination of kurdish and iraqi forces growing again, the betterment of the iraqi government and the assistance given by the coalition forces is going to defeat them in iraq, just like al qaeda was defeated in iraq. >> that is good to hear. going back to your original point, da'esh, isis is threatening to cut out the tongues of anyone who says that. it's dangerous for americans in that part of the world. does calling isis da'esh make it more dangerousor americans, besides our military men and women? >> no, i don't think so. it's actually ascribing to them what they deserve. it is an organization that should be put underfoot, and obviously, too, in the culture of the arabs, putting something under your feet is an extreme, well let's just say it's not a compliment. so when you put something under someone's foot, it's kind of the worst kind of insult. so i think this gives them the credit they deserve. they are not deserving of
representing the good islamic people, the good arab people, which are 95% of the people in this part of the world. they have taken on the criminal activities, as you said before, of a gang. that's not something that most arabs want to be associated with. >> general mark hurtling, thanks so much. i appreciate your insight. >> great. have a great day, carol. >> you, too. still to come in "the newsroom," one of america's most wanted has been in asylum in cuba for decades. with a thank you in relations will havana send her back?
this afternoon, president obama will face questions about his cuba policy change during an end of the year news conference at the white house. one question at the top of the list, the travel restrictions eased, will the president go to cuba and if so, when? top u.s. officials will head to havana soon to establish a presence. could raul castro come to the united states? no official word on that just yet, but just for perspective, the cuban president's phone call
with mr. obama was the first exchange between leaders of the two nations in 55 years. the fbi has its own cuba question today. will havana return a u.s. fugitive convicted in a 1973 shooting of a new jersey state trooper? cnn's jason carroll has more for you. >> we have learned a lot from people -- >> reporter: asada shah cure called to speak on issues such as equality and human rights but it wasn't always like this. in fact, she didn't always if by the name asada shkur. >> the addition of joanne chesimard to the fbi's most wanted terrorist list. >> reporter: her given name is joanne chesimard. last year she became the first woman added to the fbi's most wanted terrorist list, a $2 million reward offered for her capture, in connection with the fatal shooting of a new jersey state trooper in 1973.
>> while living openly and freely in cuba, she continues to maintain and promote her terrorist ideology. >> reporter: back in 1973, chesimard was a member of the black panther party. in 1987, chesimard, while a fugitive in cuba, talked about what happened the night she and two of her companions were stopped on the new jersey turnpike. >> we ate, got back into the car and shortly after we were stopped by the police. >> reporter: she claims things turned violent almost without warning. >> he had a gun in my face. i put my hands out like this. in a matter of seconds, i was shot. >> reporter: when the shooting had ended, state trooper werner foster was dead, chesimard and another man charged with his murder. what happened out here in the new jersey turnpike took place decades ago but one chilling
detail is still very clear to state troopers, according to the fbi, forster was shot at point blank range with his own gun. jury found chesimard guilty of murder, supposed to serve a life sentence. two years later she was broken out of prison by three armed members of the black liberation army and after hiding out for years, finally surfaced in cuba. she was granted asylum by fidel castro. since then, state officials have fought for her extradition. in 1998, new jersey's governor christine todd whitman had this message for chesimard. >> you are holding up the ability of the cuban population to enjoy a better relationship with the united states by your presence in cuba. >> reporter: now an historic shift in u.s./cuba relations. could it trance lite into an extradition agreement, one that would finally force chesimard back to u.s. soil to be held accountable for her crime? >> what cuba wants always is to
get into a swap situation and for u.s. officials, that's a very difficult road to go down. >> reporter: over four decades since the shooting, troopers here in new jersey are still waiting for justice. jason carroll, cnn, new york. still to come in "the newsroom," george clooney takes a stand against the sony cyber attack, except it appears he's going it alone. the petition he started and why no one else in this hollywood will sign it.
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ask your doctor about invokana®. good morning. thanks so much for joining me. i'm carol costello. george clooney is one of the biggest power players in hollywood, but when it comes to defending sony, it turns out he has little sway. last month, the mega star tried to get hollywood executives to stand up to the hackers and stand in solidarity with sony. in a petition he wrote "this is not just an attack on sony. it involves every studio, every network, every business and every individual in this
country. we know that to give in to these criminals open the door for any group that threatens freedom of expression, privacy and personal liberty." great intentions, except nobody signed the petition. he doesn't blame anyone but that the industry is terrified. we bring in "variety" senior features editor david cohen, hln legal analyst, joey jackson and cnn money technology correspondent laurie segall. welcome to all of you. good morning. so david, i'm going to start with you. why won't anyone sign this petition? wouldn't it be in their best interests to stand up for sony? >> well, to say the least hollywood executives are known to be risk-averse. i think it's not too strong a word to say cowardly. so even under the best of circumstances, they're not inclined to stand up for creative freedom because in the actual creative process of making movies they are frequently the ones who are
transfo trampling that creative freedom. they're frightened by the prospect of violence in movie theaters and by the threat that their own studio could be the next one to be hacked and their own e-mails could be exposed, their own financials exposed and own careers threatened. i understand their decision not to sign that petition. i do, however, find the total, that no one in the industry is contemptable. it says something bad about the industry. >> it says i'm afraid my personal e-mails will be leaked and my career in danger. the first amendment rights, i'm more important than that. >> you would think someone would have more to say about it than that, than just being able to say i'm sorry, i can't participate. george clooney said this in his interview, usually once one studio does it, another says they're doing it, i'll do it also. you have trouble getting the
first person to do it and you get everybody. in this case they didn't manage to get that. it's disgusting. >> joey, posing this question to you also in clooneys protest letter he said "sony didn't pull the movie because they were scared. they pulled the movie because all the theaters said they were not going to run it because they talked to their lawyers and those lawyers said if somebody dies in one of these, then you're going to be responsible." so is clooney right because the white house says there's no credible threat. >> here's the problem, carol. you're darned if you do, and darned if you don't. it's a major liability issue. you tell everyone go to the movie, it's fine, everything is going to be okay. then something happens and guess what? you're responsible, why? because you were on notice, carol, as to there being a risk. you have to be careful. in the legal terms here is the maxim. the risk perceived is the duty defined. if there is a risk, there's a perception of the risk. what is that risk the fact there would be unlawful acts committed
against theaters. you're on notice. so that's the risk perceived. what is the duty defined, to keep everyone safe. that's your obligation. to the extent you can't meet it or potentially because there are nuts who do harmful things it becomes a problem. lawyers say err on the side of safety. pull it. >> what about a disclaimer, you're going to the movie at your own risk? >> who would do that? >> i wouldn't do it in this case. >> carol, the land of the free, the home of the brave and how dare we allow anyone to affect our way of lives but at this time of year, discretion is the better part of valor. we've seen what can happen. we don't like t we want to go to the movies in peace, but at the same time we don't want anything to happen. >> in my mind, i'll get to you in a minute, laurie, i swear. i want to pose this question, something else happened. you can't show the "south park" movie that features kim jong-un's father, a puppet in the movie and his head explodes and they can't show that either
because they're scared. >> where does it end? >> yes, where does it end? >> well this is the real danger of this is that now we seem to have given any well-funded group that can afford to hire hackers veto power over whatever content people want to put out an film or the internet. where does that end? we have film out this season that's about martin luther king. there are extremist groups that mai might not approve of that, the gay characters and atheist characters, there are groups all over the world that might object to any of those. can they stop those films now by simply hacking a studio or a distributor? it is an awful precedent and dangerous. >> the president will probably talk about this later on this afternoon when he does his last press conference of the year but his people have already said, laurie, that they're reluctant to call this cyber terrorism.
why? >> the state department has a precise definition of cyber terrorism and it is pretty broad and we still have unnopes. you take a step back we don't 100% know who exactly is behind this. they have to be careful about this, but i will say i got off the phone with a security researcher who is hired by governments to protect different countries against cyber warfare and cyber terrorism. he said this looks like cyber terrorism but we have to be careful at how we label it, because you have to look at the implications of labeling this cyber terrorism, what are we going to do, how is the united states going to react? there are cyber warriors in russia, china, all around. north korea, these people aren't that connected to the internet, so a lot of things at play here and we have a lot of unno ins right now. >> let me lay this on you. sony apparently brought this film to the obama administration to look at before they decided
to release it. then it was released. i find that interesting. your perspective from sony, they had maybe legal concerns before they decided to put this movie out. >> sure, here's the reality. in america, we have this first amendment right and we like to be expressive and the supreme court says you don't want to kill sfeech. we have unrestrained, unbridled areas to share them. let's clear it with the white house, let's clear it with the state department, bring it to someone else. when would that end? it's problematic and laura to the point of cyber terrorism or whatever, forget about the labels. look at the effect it's having, altering our way of life through threats and intimidation and fear. that's problematic, because of the precedent it sets. it's a very big concern. >> david do companies like sony normally present their products to the white house before they decide to release their product?
>> that's an interesting question. it depends on the movie. it's common if a movie needs defense department cooperation if they want to film on an aircraft carrier for example than submit it for approval. i don't think it's common practice to run a movie by the white house or state department but i'm sure because they knew something that was daring and transgressive they wanted to at least give our government the chance to say you're asking for trouble for the country if if you do this. i can understand it is a little bit queasy but i can understand the desire to do it just to be responsible citizens. the thing about this that is also imtreeging for me, there are krids in the world most notably china openly covetous of the soft power that the entertainment industry conveys to the you its stap they're open
about wanting that soft power for themselves. this attack may have come from north korea and executed by russian hackers working from servers in china, all of those countries have potential interests in reducing the influence of the american entertainment industry. >> that's a very interesting point. we both interviewed a human rights organization who is going to drop movies over north korea to get people to realize what's going on in the outside world and those movies come from hollywood, right? >> absolutely. i think what's really scary is when you think about this hack and the precedent it sets, one hocker told me when i was on the phone that there's never been a case where hackers have gone after someone to silence them. that's why this is unprecedented, what everyone here is touching on. before it was credit card information, it was numbers and this was why he believes this could be cyber terrorism and why he believes this is a step
farther and creates a precedent because they wanted to silence them. >> it's affecting our way of life, it's troubling, scary and horrifying. should with he now everything we do, we have to be concerned who it's going to offend and what the implications are going to be? >> against a country like north korea? it's unbelievable. laurie segall, joey jackson, david, thanks so much, i appreciate it. >> we have to check on the markets. they've been going crazy lately. the dow was up 700 points in the last two days and it appears as you can see things are slowing down a bit this morning. richard quest joins us to tell us more. good morning, richard. >> reporter: good morning, carol. bit of a hangover after yesterday's 400-plus point rise and 700 over two days but that's what you get when you have economies in transition and markets that are nervous, excuse me, about what is going to happen next. the fed said they're going to be patient about raising rates, carol, and the markets certainly
weren't patient about going off to the races. >> you're not kidding, but things seem to be calming down this morning. we see these huge spikes and then we see dips and overall, what does this mean? anything? >> yes, it means that there is a transition under way. the markets are now waiting for these first raises in interest rates by the fed. we expect that to happen mid to late next year. janet yellen and the feds said they'd be patient, they almost got rid of the phrase considerable time and now everybody is waiting for that patience to become exhausted. but by reading the statement we got, we sort of now understand they're in no rush to raise rates and these markets have lived on the cheap fuel of cheap money, and that's what's been propelling them along. so carol, when you go to one of your holiday parties over the next few days, and suddenly somebody announces that the next
crate of champagne is about to be delivered, everybody goes, woohoo! and we're off to the party again, and that's what's happened with the markets this week. they've been told there's more money, there's more partying, and that's why they're celebrating. >> all right, richard quest, many thanks. i appreciate it. still to come, it's a podcast that had over 1 million people glued to their mobile devices every single thursday night including me. look at the real life whodunit, taking the world by storm, that's next. it's more than the driver. it's more than the car. for lotus f1 team, the competitive edge is the cloud. powered by microsoft dynamics, azure, and office 365, the team can gain real time insights and instantly share information around the globe. when every millisecond counts, staying competitive begins with the cloud.
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first time tuning into "the colbert report" i have some terrible news. [ laughter ] nation, i know that this is an emotional night for a lot of you. so i want to start the show tonight with something a little more upbeat -- syria. [ laughter ] the truthiness is all those incredible things people say i did -- running for president, saving the olympics, colbert super pac, treadmill in space, the rally to restore sanity and/or fear and/or cat steven's career -- none of that was really me. you, the nation, did all of that. i just got paid for it. [ laughter ] what i'm trying to say is -- ♪ we'll meet again don't know where, don't know
♪ when but i'm know we'll meet again ♪ some sunny day [ cheers and applause ] ♪ we'll meet again, don't nowhere, don't know when ♪ but i know we'll meet again some sunny day ♪ [ cheers and applause ] ♪ we'll struggle through just like you always day ♪ till the blue skies take the dark clouds far away ♪ >> oh, and you the colbert nation, we could haven't done it without you. thank you for being such a big part of it. that was fun! okay. okay, that's the show.
>> man, even cookie monster showed up. for those of you who are skeptical of his impact, the "new york times" compiled a list called "colbert by the numbers." 2010 was the year's colbert's famous phrase "truthiness" was added to the oxford american dictionary. in 2007, 13% of respondents preferred colbert over hillary clinton and giuliani in a three way hypothetical presidential race and his super pac raised over a million bucks as of january 2012. here's the woman laughing in the background, nischelle turner, cnn contributor and correspondent for "entertainment tonight." my, michelle. >> hi! those numbers i couldn't get pa past -- >> he looks a little sad. >> he is. he i'm sure it's sentimental for him because he had his staff out there singing so i thought it
was a fitting ending. i had to watch it twice, carol, because the first time i couldn't get past big bird and cindy lawner in the bright yellow. you know those numbers by the "new york times," the ones i could not get past, was the 1,120 calories in a pint of stephen colbert's americone dream. i think i've eaten about 50,000 calories then. >> it's stephen colbert's fault. write him a letter. you talked to him at the emmys. what did he tell you? >> i asked him about going to the new show. at this time he was still doing the colbert report. but i said are you going to be nervous? are you ready to take over the big shoes for david letterman? here's what he said. >> as soon as my show is over then i can start thinking about the new thing but i don't want to drop the ball on what i'm doing right now. but as soon as i'm not doing it, i'm surely get as nervous as possible about not having any ideas. but we'll work it out. it's all the same team.
we'll have fun. >> so you're about six hours removed, mr. colbert, time to get nervous. i think he'll be great but it's interesting because he's not going to be able to be that character so now we're going to be able to see who stephen colbert really is and i'm wondering if the audience will love that. because we love the satirical guy who hates everything and who breathes everything american, he says. >> do you think he'll be political? >> that's a tough one, what we've seen the trend in late night become is more friendly. more kind of fun and spoofy and sketchy. we don't see jimmy fallon doing that at all. he could zig and wrerch else zags but i'm not sure if network television can sustain what he
does on comedy central right now. he'll have to sanitize it a bit. >> we've entered the era of the friendly comic like the guy next door and stephen colbert, he's pretty cynical, actually, underneath the laughter and the characters. so why would that play on comedy central and not play on network television, though? >> well, i think it's the same reason that shows like "the nick" could play on cinemax and not on network television. cable can take risks the network can't. that's one of the reasons we've seen a shift, especially going into awards season. so many cable television shows getting accolades because they're able to push the boundaries when network television can't. there's some things you can't say and do. but he may try to push those boundaries a little bit. i hope he does because i want to see something different. i like jimmy fallon and i like jimmy kimmel allot, they're very
funny but i would like to see a snarky glib funny guy on late night. >> someone who makes you use your brain a little right? >> well, david letterman has become really cynical. next hour of cnn newsroom starts now. good morning, i'm carol costello. thank you for joining me. georgeny clo nclooney is spears about the sony cyber attacks. he lashed out at studio executives and theater owners. clooney said "we can not be told we can't see something by kim jong-un of all effing people. so let's talk about this. on the phone now, jeremy girard, the executive editor of deadline.com.